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Is David Lee better than…?

During Tuesday’s miserable loss (or comical loss if you’ve stopped taking the Knicks playoff aspirations seriously), my buddy asked me if I thought Mike D’Antoni is a good coach.  I said, “Definitely, he just doesn’t have that much to work with.  Plus the 2010 situation doesn’t do him any favors.”  The Knicks went on to blow the game with remarkably poor execution down the stretch (First, Duhon dribbling out the shot clock for a last second fadeaway three that missed and forced overtime.  Second, Jared Jeffries hoisting a 3 in OT when behind by 2 with 30 secs left, in some desperate attempt to get a 2 for 1).

But, still I can’t help but think it’s the players inability to execute more than it’s D’Antoni.  There’s NO way D’Antoni drew up those above mentioned plays.  The plays breakdown too easily because D’Antoni doesn’t have a guy out there who commands a double-team, and actually in this case had 2 players on the court (JJ and Du) who are so offensively inept that defenses can’t just sag off them and dare them to beat them.  But, really who else is Mike going to put on the court?  Hill played poorly in the 1st half.  Gallo injured his arm.  Yes, the Knicks should have found Chandler somehow on those plays, and I think those plays were designed to eventually get the ball in his hands, but Chandler was a marked man and didn’t get himself open. Coach has to work with what he’s got and that ain’t much.

I guess the toughest indictments I can make about D’Antoni is: 1) He treats his players like adults who can choose to self-motivate or not.  I actually think this is a good thing and like this about coach, but it isn’t the best approach for this team.  But, that’s just the way it is.  He isn’t an emotional galvanizer like Pat Riley, whose players I’m sure were convinced he’d strike them down with a thunderbolt if they didn’t give it 110%. And, 2) The short rotation bites him in the ass when his team isn’t playing well.  He runs himself out of options.

Anyway the discussion led to some thoughts I’ve been having about David Lee, whose emergence as a team leader (mostly in his own eyes it seems) has coincided with the Knicks’ downward spiral.  Despite his gaudy offensive numbers, Lee’s defensive effort has been abysmal.  He’s getting killed on the defensive glass.  He absolutely refuses to take a hard foul to prevent a basket.  He doesn’t make life the least bit difficult for his man, being unable or unwilling to stay in front of his man or play physical defense.  And, I have to think it’s ‘unwillingness’ considering his ability to attack the offensive glass.  Basically, Lee saves his effort for the offensive end of the floor, and doesn’t want to take fouls because he doesn’t want to risk being taken off the court.

His constant bitching and moaning clearly doesn’t do him any favors either with the refs or his teammates.  Lee’s constantly complaining to refs after every miss, after ever foul called on him, just everything.  Half the time he gets beat down court because of his incessant whining.  It just reeks of a player who thinks he’s better than he is and is more entitled than he is.  And, additionally, for a dude who bitches, he never bitches on behalf of his teammates.  For example, say Jared Jeffries steps in front of someone for a charge (something Lee would never do), and gets called for a defensive foul instead.  Lee never advocates for his teammates or challenges the refs for decisions if he isn’t directly involved in the play.  Think Rasheed Wallace (complainer-in-chief) is going to keep his mouth shut when that happens.  No way.  He’s going to let the ref know it.  But, he’s also letting his teammates know it, too. When a guy only complains for his own plays it makes you think he’s only looking out for himself.  And, Lee really seems to be playing with an attitude that says, “I’m getting my numbers so it isn’t my fault if we lose.”

But, despite all of this, yes, Lee’s the best player on the team.  And if Lee is the best player on your team, how good can your team really be?  I asked my buddy, “On what other team in the league would David Lee be the best player on the team?”  It’s pretty grim, but let’s go down the list for sub-.500 teams:

  • Nets (4-48) – best player who has played (not including injured players) – Is Lee better than Brook Lopez?  It’s close, but Yes (1 vote).
  • Minny (13-40) – Al Jefferson or Kevin Love.  Is Lee better?  No.
  • GS (14-37) – Is Lee better than Monta Ellis?  No.
  • Sacramento (18-34) – Is Lee better than Tyreke Evans?  No.
  • Washington (17-33) – Is Lee better than Antoine Jamison? No.
  • Indiana (18-34) – Is Lee better than Danny Granger? No.
  • Detroit (18-33) – Is Lee better than Ben Gorden? Yes (2 votes)
  • Knicks (19-32)
  • Philly (20-32) – Is Lee better than Andre Iguadala? No.
  • Clips (21-31) – Is Lee better than Chris Kaman? No.
  • Milwaukee (24-27) – Is Lee better than Andrew Bogut? No.
  • Chicago (25-26) – Is Lee better than Derek Rose? Nope.
  • Miami (26-27) – Is Lee better than DWade?  Nuh uh.

So, basically, there are 2 other teams that Lee would be the best player on.  ONLY 2!  Considering that in the NBA success is largely driven by the talent you have on the floor, the Knicks are probably overperforming with the 8th worst record in the league.  So let’s give coach D’Antoni a break, because he’s has the Knicks playing a lot better than we should’ve expected.

UPDATE: Howard Beck at the Times has a similar take on the Knicks lack of talent: Knicks Find That Talent Is Hard to Beat [ NY Times ].  Good read, as always.

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The problem with moral victories, and the absolute need for a PG (…named Rubio)

Watching the game against the Lakers on Friday, I couldn’t help but feel that the Knicks had achieved a moral victory of some sort. The Knicks went shot for shot and blow for blow against the best team in the league. Neither team had more than a 6 point lead until the 4th quarter.  It wasn’t until the 4th quarter that the inevitable occurred.  Pau Gasol asserted himself in the paint and subsequently disposed of Lee, Jeffries and Chandler, who all took turns trying to D up the big man.  Heck, even when the loss was apparent, I felt okay about the Knicks’ overall effort and moxie.  I didn’t even mind David Lee getting repeatedly denied by Gasol (who blocked or altered numerous shot attempts) in the fourth.  At least the Knicks attacked.  At least the Knicks fought and gave the Lakers—and the fans—all they had.

It was a strangely satisfying loss. I even thought about writing a post entitled “If ever there were a moral victory…”

And then the Dallas loss happened. And, yes, it felt like a punch in the face.

But, really, should it have? The aberration was the fact that the Knicks were able to stick to the Lakers as well as they did with the same lineup, and with the kind of PG play the Knicks have been getting out of Chris Duhon.  Somehow it feels like the moral victory against the Lakers blew up in their faces.  The Knicks came out chemistry-less, passive and overconfident and it resulted in the most embarrassing loss of the season.

The most remarkable part of the Dallas game was that Jared Jeffries had 14 points in the first half. But, even that makes some sense if you think about it because no team in their right mind actually D’s up JJ. It just so happened that yesterday, Jeffries, in some Bizarro World vortex, knocked down his first half chances. While Dallas gave non-threats Jeffries and Duhon space, they intelligently suffocated Lee, Chandler, and Gallo who were all taken out of their games.

After the first half, it seemed a gift to be down only 16.  I figured the Knicks would come out with spark after an embarrassing first half and make it a game.  Nope.  Duhon once again looked like he was playing a pick up game after being awake for 72 straight hours, clumsily turning the ball over and missing shots.  Barea effortlessly drove around him time and again on the pick and roll, while it never occured to Lee and Chandler come over and help, and maybe knock him on his ass to at least make life a little bit difficult for Dallas.  Drew Gooden played as if he had a vendetta against David Lee, blocking his shot and dominating him as if he were Pau Gasol. And symmetry in the universe was restored when Jeffries missed layups and had rebounds bouncing of the back of his head.

Anyway, it’s easy to blow this loss out of proportion.  But what is absolutely crystal clear, and what can’t be exaggerated is just how desperately Mike D’Antoni needs to bench Chris Duhon — NOW.  I don’t care if Nate is injured.  I don’t care if we need to make a D-league call up.  Duhon is crippling this team in a way that puts the rest of the season in jeopardy.  Every fan in the Knicks’ universe sees this.  Literally, every fan.   It’s simply too much for the Knicks (who start Jeffries and Duhon) to begin every half of basketball 3 on 5 on the offensive end.  And, I can actually live with JJ out there.  He’s our defensive stalwart and he manages to deflect enough balls and keep things fluid on the offensive end.  But, Duhon may single-handedly be sinking the Knicks hopes of competitiveness all by himself.

Which leads us to Marc Berman teasing us with this: Knicks president Walsh still has eyes on Rubio.  Really, teasing us with any hope of landing Ricky Rubio, especially now, is downright cruel.  But, if there is ANY way for the Knicks to pull this off without trading Gallo, I still maintain that if must be done.

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David Lee hitting 45% of his shots from 16 feet out

The NY Times has a GREAT article on David Lee’s new found ability to hit the deep outside shot.  I have to admit, it took a little while for that ‘David Lee is taking an outside shot’-knot in my stomach to disappear.  Even earlier in the season, I would cringe.  But, coinciding with the Knicks turning around their season in December, Lee’s competence from outside slowly became the norm.  Check out this great chart, courtesy of the Times:

david lee shot chart

In 35 games this season Lee has already taken as many 16+ footers as he did all of last year and is hitting at 45%, a very respectable clip (and 11% better than last year). His confidence and competence with the outside shot has opened up the rest of his game, and opened up the game for the rest of the team. If Lee has to be defended out to 20 feet, defenders can’t cheat off of him and crowd the likes of Gallo and company. It’s a great illustration of how one players success will make life easier on his teammates.

I’d put David’s success from outside, along with Jared Jeffries galvanizing defensive effort, as the big difference-makers from the previous season.

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Divide in the Knicks locker room?

Clearly the Knicks have been lacking cohesion on the court – something that I’ve felt was turning into visible frustration between David Lee and Al Harrington.  And, since there is a clear leadership void, are there cliques in the locker room?  Here is the first bit I’ve read about it on the SNY Knicks blog

Reports have mentioned a locker room that is divided based on a leadership standpoint. Multiple sources have told me that the team is split and no leader has emerged and they feel disrespect about the organization’s 2010 focus. The thinking is that Iverson, a sure Hall of Famer, could take that leadership role that seems to be split in the locker room between Harrington and David Lee

No idea if there is any legitimacy to this, but I feel like I’ve noticed Lee and Harrington bickering on the court.  The two haven’t shown any chemistry, but then again the only player on the court Harrington has any chemistry with is himself.  Not exactly sure how Iverson would add any cohesion, unless they thought process is that winning, in and of itself, adds cohesion.

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